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    Post #1 - March 2nd, 2005, 12:59 am
    Post #1 - March 2nd, 2005, 12:59 am Post #1 - March 2nd, 2005, 12:59 am
    Anyone ever been? My girlfriend's bday is coming up and she would like to go somewhere we haven't been before. I know we've talked about going here before, so I figured I'd see if anyone's had any experiences there. If so, can you tell me the approximate price and the appropriate dress.

    Thanks alot.
  • Post #2 - March 2nd, 2005, 6:11 am
    Post #2 - March 2nd, 2005, 6:11 am Post #2 - March 2nd, 2005, 6:11 am
    I took my wife for a trip on the Orient Express as part of our honymoon. It was a once in a lifetime event and well worth it. The cars are beautifully restored vintage pullmans, finished in mahogany and other woods on the inside (very ornate). Dress is whatever you like, although lots of people (including us) dressed to the nines for dinner. The lounge car has a grand piano in it, and one of the great mysteries of the train is how they got the piano into the car. Foodwise, it's surprisingly good. Fresh produce is picked up along the way, as the train makes its various stops (even though the entire trip istself is really just 1.5 days) and everything is cooked to order. We took the train from Venice to London, but I would strongly recommend taking the trip in the other direction. On our trip, we passed through the alps in the dead of night, and during the day we passed through the plaines of France. By going the other way, it's night time during the realatively boring flat part of the trip (Hell, if you want to see prairie, take the Amtarak to Springfield) and daylight for the passage through the alps, which is truly spectacular.

    On our trip, the train stopped at Calais, where we boarded a ferry (with a private lounge for the OE passengers only) for the Channel crossing to Dover (got to see the fabled White Cliffs). After the crossing, we boarded another train with day coaches rather than sleeper cars (also beautifully restored) for the 2 - 3 hour trip to London. During that part of the trip, they served a proper English tea (as the time of day was appropriate). I don't know if they still do it this way now that the Chunnel has been built (not sure if they built railroad tracks or just a roadway for cars).

    It was a great once in a lifetime trip. I can't remember the exact cost, but it was around 2 thousand dollars (but that was 15 years ago). One other thing, in your ticket packet, they give you some way cool old school Orient Express baggage stickers. Don't put them on your baggage (as we did). The first time we flew after the OE trip, our bags came down the baggage claim chute at the ariport sans stickers. Evidently they are highly prized and will be taken by the baggage handlers.
    Steve Z.

    “Only the pure in heart can make a good soup.”
    ― Ludwig van Beethoven
  • Post #3 - March 2nd, 2005, 7:01 am
    Post #3 - March 2nd, 2005, 7:01 am Post #3 - March 2nd, 2005, 7:01 am
    Steve,

    I believe the Clapper was referring to Simplon Orient Express on Lincoln, though your trip sounds spectacular.

    Simplon's menu touches on countries the Orient express runs though, and there is a family dining option that offers a sampling of many of the dishes. I had first gone to Simplon after reading a piece about cevapcici by Monica Eng in a Chicago Tribune World Eats Column back in '01, and Simplon's cevapcici is quite good.

    One of the charms of the place is the owner, who is very Old World European, and can be quite the raconteur. There is also music on the weekends and some weeknights.

    Overall, if the Clapper is looking for something a little different Simplon will fit the bill well. I hope if the Clapper does go to Simplon he posts about his meal, I'd enjoy reading a follow-up as I haven't been for a couple of years.

    Enjoy,
    Gary

    Simplon Orient Express
    4520 N Lincoln Ave.
    Chicago, IL. 60625
    773-275-0033
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  • Post #4 - March 2nd, 2005, 8:28 am
    Post #4 - March 2nd, 2005, 8:28 am Post #4 - March 2nd, 2005, 8:28 am
    Oh....that's different....never mind.
    Rosanne Rosannadanna
    Steve Z.

    “Only the pure in heart can make a good soup.”
    ― Ludwig van Beethoven
  • Post #5 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:28 am
    Post #5 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:28 am Post #5 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:28 am
    Clapper,

    I have not been to Simplon in a couple years either, but I am told it hasn't changed much. The prices are very reasonable, I would describe the place on the cheap side of "moderate". The atmosphere is cozy and quaint, in an "old-country" kinda-way.

    The cuisine is "pan-European" with heavy influence towards Serbian carnivores. Overall, based on my memory, I'd recommend it. I don't know your tastes, but if you're looking for something new, I'd say to give it a try. It is definitely one of those little places that gets lost in the shuffle, especially since it competes with Tournesol and Bistro C. for my attention.

    I, like G Wiv, would enjoy reading a follow-up if you choose to check it out.

    Best,
    Michael / EC

    PS -- Steve, I also took the train once, but the whole trip was marred by a massive family-murder plot that was foiled by a precocious little Belgian man....wait...I think that was a movie. I was never on the Orient Express....never mind. :D
  • Post #6 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:45 am
    Post #6 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:45 am Post #6 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:45 am
    It's been a while for me too, but from what I remember there is some dinner special where you get a small portion of many things. If you ask nicely, you can get the Mousakka replaced with the Muckalica (pronounced Moosh-ka-LEET-za), which I'd recommend. And if you're good, you'll get a shot of Slivovica/ Slivovitz at the end.

    Have a good trip...
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  • Post #7 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:50 am
    Post #7 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:50 am Post #7 - March 2nd, 2005, 9:50 am
    I wrote about it on another board in August 2003-- my experience was that if you want the big, jolly Eastern European experience, you need to go at a time that you're not the only customer:

    Simplon Orient Express (4520 N. Lincoln)-- Bistro Campagne reminded me that I needed to finally eat at its neighbor, the Serbian restaurant with a train theme. I enjoy places with decor trapped in amber, although the risk is always that the food will be too. Good news is the food came out a little better, but alas the hospitality was a little on the Soviet side. The family sat at the back table watching Channel 5 news all through my meal, except for the oldest man in the room who sat noisily playing backgammon.
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  • Post #8 - March 2nd, 2005, 11:19 am
    Post #8 - March 2nd, 2005, 11:19 am Post #8 - March 2nd, 2005, 11:19 am
    eatchicago wrote:PS -- Steve, I also took the train once, but the whole trip was marred by a massive family-murder plot that was foiled by a precocious little Belgian man....wait...I think that was a movie. I was never on the Orient Express....never mind. :D


    During our trip, I kept expecting Hercule Poirot to appear, alas, he never did. The only strangely amusing thing that happened was that we were befriended by a Japanese couple because they had the same camera as we did. They did not speak a word of English and we did not speak a word of Japanese (other than that which is necessary to order sushi). We had a good time nonetheless.
    Steve Z.

    “Only the pure in heart can make a good soup.”
    ― Ludwig van Beethoven
  • Post #9 - March 2nd, 2005, 11:46 am
    Post #9 - March 2nd, 2005, 11:46 am Post #9 - March 2nd, 2005, 11:46 am
    Hi Steve,

    I once saw the Orient Express train itself, I want to say Vienna, but I am not quite sure.

    The name Orient Express is either contested or openly available. There was a Russian joint venture Orient Express tooling around in the late 80's early 90's; it may well still be in existence; which did did finish in Peking. I knew a Swiss national who worked for a Soviet, then Russian, bank who was a guest in one of their first tours. He loved the experience and the gracious style on the train. In both your experiences, trips of a lifetime.

    My Dad suggested I might want to take the Orient Express. I declined because his version was not the high style you enjoyed. It would have been the steerage class version, where you run out onto the platform at stops to buy food from private vendors earning a few kopeks. No fine toilets but a hole in the floor to aim at ... I shudder at the thought.

    I'm not a train buff per se, though I have been on a few of the great train rides: my favorite was the Blue Train from Cape Town to Johannesburg, South Africa. Gold dust in the windows to reflect the sun away. Beautiful.
    Cathy2

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  • Post #10 - March 2nd, 2005, 12:47 pm
    Post #10 - March 2nd, 2005, 12:47 pm Post #10 - March 2nd, 2005, 12:47 pm
    Cathy,

    This was the Simplon Orient Express (not to be confused with any other "Orient Express" that may still be running in Cental Asia), which is the ressurected version of the posh train that used to run from Istanbul to ???. These days, it runs only between London and Venice.
    Steve Z.

    “Only the pure in heart can make a good soup.”
    ― Ludwig van Beethoven
  • Post #11 - March 5th, 2005, 4:01 pm
    Post #11 - March 5th, 2005, 4:01 pm Post #11 - March 5th, 2005, 4:01 pm
    It's been a few years since we have eaten there, but I pass by frequently as it is on the best route between home and library. The posted menu has the combination menu at 15.95 per person for two or more. We had this with my parents quite some years ago, and it was quite a feast. Main dishes are mostly 10.95 to 13.95 and come with starch item and vegetable.

    One old rule here was stick to the Serbian items because execution was dependably good. The same could not have been said for some of the others.

    Unless things have changed, there is no printed wine list. This makes the wine selection something of a crap shoot. Of course, unless one is expert in wines from the former Yugoslavia, a printed wine list might not be of much help beyond giving a sense of prices.

    Things don't get lively until 9 PM or later. Get there between 8 and 9 if you want a quiet start with entertainment not starting until dessert time.

    IIRC Simplon opened in the late 1970s before Miomir's problems with the IRS shut down his Serbian Club.
  • Post #12 - March 10th, 2005, 6:15 pm
    Post #12 - March 10th, 2005, 6:15 pm Post #12 - March 10th, 2005, 6:15 pm
    It's been a while for me, too, but we had a really nice meal there. I had some sort of carnivore combo off the Serbian menu that included a tasty homemadesausage, a juicy pork chop, and something else (not unidentifiable, just forgotten). It was quite a deal. I remember the chicken pate free appetizer as being pretty good.

    The waitress was great and the proprietor brought us over free shots of....something....very strong. We went early and were the only folks there, but we felt extremely welcomed without being hovered over. A nice meal.
  • Post #13 - May 17th, 2005, 10:22 pm
    Post #13 - May 17th, 2005, 10:22 pm Post #13 - May 17th, 2005, 10:22 pm
    I went there with my parents today for my birthday; I had been in the mood for something Balkan. We ate at 7:00; there was only one other table in use (probably a good thing for my dad, who doesn't really like eating in crowded places). I was the only one interested in the Russian salad/boiled egg portion of the appetizer, but everyone enjoyed the liver pate. I agree with the previous poster that the cheese spread was extremely bland by itself, though mixing it with the liver pate resulted in something tasty. The soup was an extremely good chicken soup.

    I had cevapcici and mucalicka (thanks to Rich4 and Mike G. for recommending the latter); my dad had mucalicka and my mom had the pork kabob (whose name I forget). Everybody was happy with their food. The texture of the cevapcici was a bit different than I remembered from the last time I had them (somewhere else), which must have been at least 20 years ago. The mucalicka was absolutely delicious; I was surprised it was so rich given its ingredients (the server told me that the sauce was simply the juice from the pork); however I concentrated on the cevapcici since I thought the mucalicka would probably reheat better (it struck me as the sort of dish that might be even better the next day).

    For dessert, I had the walnut crepe and my parents each had apple strudel. The crepe was really more like a savory crepe than a sweet one; not quite what I was expecting but very good nonetheless. The strudel was also not particularly sweet (neither of my parents are terribly into sweets) and had a bread-pudding like texture.

    The service was quite efficient (but then again, the place was hardly crowded). The tab with tax and tip came to around $80 (nobody had any drinks), a little bit high because I ordered two entrees and the desserts were fairly pricy (the crepes were $3.50 and the strudel were $4.50 each).

    Simplon's definitely for carnivores only; just about all the entrees are based on veal, pork, or beef. Sweet-lovers should skip the desserts and run over to Taste of Heaven, Zephyr or even Margie's afterwards.

    Parking in the neighborhood was quite scarce at 7:00 on a Tuesay night (I wound up parking in front of Spoon Thai, which I have yet to visit); if I were going there on the weekend, I'd definitely take the Brown Line for at least the last leg of the trip.

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